Episode #1 of Undeclared for Life: What’s Wrong with Me?!

Episode #1 of Undeclared for Life: What’s Wrong with Me?!

Written by Emilie

Topics: Podcast, Scanners


We did it!

Today I present to you the very first episode of Undeclared for Life. This project has been in the works for a while now and I’m super excited to finally launch it! Future episodes will be released on Mondays, every other week.

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In Today’s Episode…

Abe and I stumble over the word ‘multipotentialite’ as we introduce ourselves, discuss the goals of the show and try to explain exactly WHAT this bizarre Scanner thing is all about and how lifestyle design can help.

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  1. Inge says:

    Dear Emilie,

    I just listened to your podcast and felt I wanted to say something about it. For starters, you absolutely rock for doing it! I know this was one of your goals and I get that it’s important to you and you are awesome for actually doing it!

    And because I get the feeling this is so important to you, I also want to say I think you can do so much better! I’ve read your blog and I really like the way you write. You are to the point and funny and inspiring in your writing, something I have to say I kinda missed in your podcast. So maybe you were a little (or lots, I can understand ;) nervous, but get over that…you rock! I know you know what you’re talking about, I get that from your posts. So take that confidence you have in writing, and put it in your speaking. You know you’ve got it!

    No need to put this on your site if you don’t want to, I just wanted to let you know. I hope you understand that this is no criticism, and that I wish for you to reach your goals! So take care, hope to hear from you again!


    • Inge says:

      Errr…sorry about that, I didn’t think I’d be on the site straight away. Next time I’ll just send an email.

    • Emilie says:

      Hi Inge,

      I appreciate your feedback. I remember reading about how when Chris Guillebeau started making videos, his readers wrote in and were like “um Chris, this isn’t up to par…” And so he worked at it and slowly he improved.

      Here’s the thing, when we recorded this episode, I knew it could be better. I wanted to wait and wait. I wanted to practice more and plan more.

      But I pushed myself to go forward anyway and put out something that I knew WASN’T perfect. And that was a huge triumph.

      Waiting for perfection before beginning only means that you will never begin. Mastery is something that comes with experience– with doing. Putting something imperfect out into the world takes guts. It’s also the only way to improve.

      I will say though, that we’ve recorded several episodes since this first one and I think you’ll notice a rapid improvement as we become more comfortable on the mics.

      Thanks for the comment.

  2. Bob says:

    The podcast was interesting, and just about the right length. It also sounded really good, especially considering that you weren’t in the same place. What system(s) did you use to record the conversation? I’m guessing some web chat system, since a phone would sound horrible.

    • Emilie says:

      Thanks Bob! In this episode we talked over Skype but each recorded our side of the conversation on our own computers. Then we edited the tracks together in GarageBand.

      Lately we’ve been experimenting with Audio Hijack though. It’s a cool program because it allows you to keep the tracks separate so that you can adjust the levels and edit each track individually.

  3. Nick Laborde says:

    Awesome job, especially for the first one out of the gate. I listen to a lot of podcasts and this one will be added to the list. I think you did a great job of letting us know a little bit more about you and what you’re trying to do with the site and the podcast.

    I agree “Multipotentialites” is a bit of a mouth full. I don’t know what the perfect word is, but I’m sure it will make an appearance.

    Keep it up, it’s just gonna get better and better.

    Rock on!

    • Emilie says:

      Thanks for the encouragement Nick! Much appreciated.

      And yeah, the name thing is something we’ll be refining as we go. Though I sort of like the fact that us scanners can’t decide on 1 label… It’s kind of appropriate, ya know? :)

  4. Jesse Oguns says:

    Hi emilie,

    now that was a huge lip forward. your consistency and productivity brought you this far, you did not just speak about it and tweet about it (the podcast), you pulled it off. I must give you kudozzzzz! great podcast.

    you have taken the first bold step and you were spontaneous with it. You have carved a niche, and I belong to this community too.

    I am going to extend this same love to people around my locality who have been labelled “jack of all trade” and help them too by sharing my experience.

    I found myself in a rut again trying to brand myself to a single skill, its been very confusing. Listening to this podcast has reminded me how cool it can be to have multiple interest.

    Looking forward to when you would be talking about, how scanners can be productive, instead of doing all that flocks to their head at a time.

    @Abe, thanks for the collabo with emilie. :D (y)

    • Emilie says:

      Hi Jesse,

      Thanks man! I’m glad you were inspired by our ramblings. :) Being a multipotentialite IS awesome. It’s important to remember that. And don’t worry, we’ll get to the productivity stuff in future episodes. Overwhelm is a big problem for scanners. It will definitely be the topic of one (or many) episodes.

      Thanks Jesse!

  5. Abe says:

    Thanks for listening everyone! This was only the 3rd time Emilie and I ever spoke hence the “getting to know each other” vibe. We can probably make a laugh track with the unedited version. Gotta love the web for making this possible! And @jesse of course, I hope future eps are useful to you.

  6. Hell yes!!! Congrats Em and Abe! Great first episode, I can’t wait to hear more from you.

    Hm, what about calling us multipods, multipodds? Less of a toungebreaker. Multipots has kind of a strange connotation with the t. But then again, I’m not a native speaker, so there might are other meanings of that word I don’t know…

    Anyway, I found that site http://www.stimsondesigns.com/index2.php?link=multipod , a simple box trailer in which to carry your heavy camping gear. Which leads to the subject of multifunctionality and location independence.

    Hell yes and hell no. I’m in the same boat as you two, independence and the ability to plan your own schedule, yes, but I also need my “two-monitor setup and infrastructure”, as my circle of friends, my home. So to speak, two souls in one heart. Or I just have to get used to the fact to have a little more freedom because I started working part-time and the rest is freelancing.

    Once again, thanks for doing this


    • Emilie says:

      Hey Michael!

      I actually really like ‘multipods’. It does have a bit of a sci-fi vibe to it, but I think it might still be the best I’ve heard so far. Abe and I shall discuss, thanks!

      And yeah, your challenges are very familiar to a lot of us I think. There’s no need to sell all your possessions and go trotting around the globe just because it’s what digital entrepreneurs are ‘supposed’ to do. I mean, if that’s your thing, cool. But if you prefer having a home base with a cozy monitor setup, no harm in that either.

      I think the main thing that’s important is choice. Just being able to live the way you feel most comfortable and do the things that you love on a regular basis.

      Thanks for the kind words and for the feedback Michael. :)

    • Abe says:

      Hey Michael, I’m glad someone agrees with my two-monitor addiction! It’s hard to use just my laptop these days. We need a portable hi-rez e-paper display or something so that we can go location independent “guilt free”. Just roll it up and go!

      Thanks for your insight and congrats on the part-time freedom, that’s a great accomplishment to build upon.

  7. Chase Night says:

    Hey Emilie, great job! I really dig what you’re saying about multipotentialites. I studied film from the time I was 14 until I was 25, when I accepted I was never going to be good at directing or lighting, lol. So I went to seminary. Which was fine until it showed me all the loopholes to faith, and I became an atheist, lol. Now I’m going to school to study English & Literature on the offhand notion that I might want to be an online professor one day for steady income in between writing projects. Every time I find a new interest I feel like people are judging me because I didn’t pick one thing and stick with it, but I don’t think that’s how the human brain works. Good for you for saying it’s okay to be this way.

    • Emilie says:

      Your story is so awesome Chase! Seriously, it brought a huge smile to my face. Good for you, embracing your puttylike nature!

      It’s also interesting how many scanners have dabbled in film/multimedia at one time or another. Abe and I both have backgrounds/interests in film too. We all may have to come together and start some giant Scanner production company/art collective one day… hm.

      • Abe says:

        I’m in. Wouldn’t it be an awesome experiment to have a full cast and crew of scanners making a film? Robert Rodriguez hasn’t done THAT yet, right?

  8. ayngelina says:

    Congratulations, heading over to the iTunes store now!

  9. Congratulations on your first podcast! I love audio as a format for blog content, and this will be a great addition to my little list of subscriptions.

    The audio sounds really good, especially for skype recordings.

    My practical challenge with being a multipotentialite is the overwhelm you mentioned. I’ve almost got that under control, but I still scratch my head when I compare my wildly ambitious plans with what I actually accomplish in a day.

    Anyway, I look forward to the next episode. Cheers!

    • Emilie says:

      Thanks Seth! So many multipods seem to list overwhelm as their biggest challenge. We’ll definitely get on that in an upcoming episode.

      Thanks for checking it out. Looking forward to hearing more from you.

  10. James says:

    man, congrats Emilie! Good to get to know you a bit too Abe, I’ll be looking forward to learning a little more about you in future episodes:).

    For my part, I just have to say… that’s a crazy intro song. Haha, I thought it was a royalty free song, and then I tuned into the lyrics… bloody perfect: ). You guys are off to a great start, and I’m definitely liking the fact that there’s actually a place now that understands WHY I feel compelled to learn japanese and marketing at the same time. And chinese. And raw foodism. And parkour. And stock trading. And piano. -_-…

    and jazz guitar.


    In honor your first big podcast debut, I’m making a donation in the puttylike name to kiva.org, and helping some third world entrepreneurs make their dreams come true too. If anyone else wants to donate, join team puttylike: ). Minimum donation is only $25, though you can always join the team now for free and donate later when you feel inspired to do so. Maybe it’d be a cool thing to do as a community? Here’s the team home page:

    One thing I’d like to see in future episodes of the podcast, would be involving the community more somehow. Unlike most normal people, I think multipotentialites probably function more in terms of short term goals, so there’s probably a whole slew of awesome achievements out there every week. I’d love to hear about all the crazy random quests the readers here are embarking on. New herb garden out back? First katana forged? I might just pick up something new I’d like to try out myself: ).

    One other point… you’re very good at structuring a really solid, cohesive narrative that leads to something tangible. Sometimes it’s a new understanding, sometimes it’s inspiration for trying something new. Either way, all of your posts are pretty unapologetic about being there to change the reader in some way. The podcast was entertaining, and I liked getting the introduction… but the only takeaway from the episode was “If this resonates with you, you belong here”. Maybe that’s enough for the first episode, but I’m excited to see how you and Abe use your writing skills in this new medium now that things are up and running.


    • Emilie says:

      Hah that’s cool James! Thanks for setting up the Kiva page. It’ll also be useful in case I mess up any more of my bi-monthly mastermind goals. (Checking email no more than twice a day is HARD!) :P

      We got the theme song off of fiverr.com! We were pretty jazzed when we heard it. It is insanely catchy though. I’m pretty sure our listeners are going to want us killed after a few more episodes. lol..

      Really great suggestions. And yeah, we are definitely planning to make future episodes more listener-centric. We just figured it would be a good idea to get a basic idea of what a multipod is and where we’re coming from before jumping into like, monetization strategies and affiliate marketing. :) We’ll get there though.

      Thanks for the feedback James!

    • Abe says:

      I agree with Emilie on this James, really good suggestions you have here. Thank you! The first few podcast episodes we recorded are on the more general tip, but specific topics and takeaways for scanners, both in the podcast and here on the Puttylike blog, are front-of-mind for us. Thanks for sticking with.

      Your interests are so varied, it’s awesome! I dig watching parkour, man. Glad the artform is given more mainstream love these days.


  11. Adam says:

    Congratulations on your first podcast guys! I really like the fact that the podcast was so natural and free. I think that this is what makes a great podcast, easy to listen too. Even though you say that you had only spoken to eachother 3 times previous to this, you both seem to connect and work well with eachother.

    It’s great to here you guys talk about this. I also get this awful feeling when you know you need to move on and do something different, and the thought of, how am I going to explain why this time? It’s like were finding reasons to justify and convice people that this is right for us. My solution now will be to say, “goto Puttylike.com and that’s why”!

    I’m looking forward to what you’ve got coming next.

    Cheers Adam

    • Emilie says:

      Hey Adam,

      Thanks for the feedback. Yeah it’s funny, the first time Abe and I spoke, I just got this feeling like we would work well together. We’ve recorded a few more episodes since this first one and I think you’ll notice our rapport begins growing even more (we start making fun of each other in about ep 3… lol).

      I’m also glad you can relate. I know that feeling very well– the “I need to move on, what is wrong with me, how do I explain this” feeling, that is.

      No more. :)

      Thanks Adam!

    • Abe says:

      Thanks Adam. I totally can relate to the feeling of:

      • I have to do this new thing.
      • But I also have to tell people why I’m doing this new thing.
      • Do I really wanna do this new thing?
      • Aww, f*** it! I’m doing it.

      I volunteered for a bunch of different Psych department experiments in college just to get some answers to why I’m wired the way I am. I always had more questions than the experimenters! Not much help there. I have to agree with you that finding Puttylike and Emilie has been such a good thing. Let’s figure it out as a community!

  12. Angela says:

    Great job on the podcast you two! I had fun listening to it this morning while starting my day. With videos I’m compelled to sit and stare at the screen, but I like the podcast because I can get up and do other things at the same time, which is perfect for my putty-like personality. Can’t wait for the next one!

    • Emilie says:

      Thanks Angela! I agree, I dig podcasts for that reason too. I’m constantly listening to podcasts as I clean my room, do the dishes, take the bus, etc. Love the medium.

  13. I think you touched upon say great topics. It’s great to find a website similar to mine focusing on multiple and interests and how to manage them. Great job. I think it would be great if you could get insight of some other people and other points of views. Keep up the good work.

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